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    Donnella .... Here is your new thread. We can do all communications right here. I have copied and pasted our previous conversation so nothing is left out. This should help you. God bless.


    Could someone please help me ? I am new here.
    Hi I am new on here and I pray that I'm not on anyones page. But I am begging and desperately needing help. I started taking buprenorphin ( suboxone) 6 days ago from being addicted to pain pills so 6 days ago I went to see a suboxone doctor after reading everything about the medicane I truly want to get off of these but I am scared to start going into withdrawls . I am begging anyone if you have any information would you please let me know..Thank you all . Like
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    Yesterday, 08:38 PM #30 Robert_325 View Profile View Forum Posts
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    Originally Posted by Donnella
    Hi I am new on here and I pray that I'm not on anyones page. But I am begging and desperately needing help. I started taking buprenorphin ( suboxone) 6 days ago from being addicted to pain pills so 6 days ago I went to see a suboxone doctor after reading everything about the medicane I truly want to get off of these but I am scared to start going into withdrawls . I am begging anyone if you have any information would you please let me know..Thank you all .



    Donnella ..... I will be happy to try and help you. First tell me your using history so I know the best route to take. What dose did the sub dr start you at six days ago, this is critical! Give me some info to work with, don't be embarassed, no one gets judged here, we are all just a bunch of druggies (some more reformed than others). LOL No one is here to do anything but help you.

    Send all of your replies that you want to send to me right here on this thread. I have subscribed to this thread and I will see anytime you post anything here. We'll get you your own thread started once we get squared away as this is a big thread and you'll get lots more support on your own thread. God bless. Last edited by Robert_325; Yesterday at 08:40 PM. I am not a dr. My statements are based on years of experience and related education. Consult with the professional of your choice regarding matters of concern.

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    Hi and thank you so much for responding ! I started taking lortabs 6 years ago after having back surgery the doctor put me on percocets.( All in 2006 ) I m just so tired of taking pain pills I want off of them for good. After going into rehab 3 different times and coming back home I would relapse with a week or two. Well last week June 7 th I went to a suboxone doctor and I sat down and told him everything . He put me on subs. 8 mgs. 3 times a day. It is way too much for me. I was so sick the 2nd day I called his office to let them know and the nurse said it would take at least 2 days for that feeling to go away after getting in my system. So since the 2nd day I cut the subs down myself to a quarter 4 times a day which has been 8 mgs. I need and want help desperatly off of these. ( Subs.) after reading on different websites then coming to this one I have learned alot and I thank everyone especially Robert. At least after getting on the computer and researching myself. the doctors office hasnt called me once to check in on me. It is all about money with these doctors I paid $230.00 for my office visit and of course my prescription of subs. I want off of the pain pills and these subs.. Since its only been 6 days taking suboxone am I over the percocet withdrawls? And also could you please help get me off of the subs? Do I stop at once on them? I just dont know what to do. I have prayed and prayed and I truly believe I have came to the right place and thats here. All I want is to be like I use to be . me, a clean body with no pills in my system and having to rely on a pain pill just to get out of the bed to day started. This is one terrible feeling. If it will work I will do it. Please tell me if I need to wean myself off of the subs. or any information. I do sincerly appreciate any advice and help. Thank you so much. Like
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    Yesterday, 11:43 PM #35 Donnella View Profile View Forum Posts
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    Hi rxqueen83 I am just now reading your post and thank you so much !! I will definitly do that first thing when I get up in the morning. I am new on here so I will start a new thread with him and hopefully he can help me. And please do keep me in your prayers. I really need them. Thank you again so much and have a good night. Like
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    Today, 08:39 AM #36 Robert_325 View Profile View Forum Posts
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    Originally Posted by Donnella
    Hi and thank you so much for responding ! I started taking lortabs 6 years ago after having back surgery the doctor put me on percocets.( All in 2006 ) I m just so tired of taking pain pills I want off of them for good. After going into rehab 3 different times and coming back home I would relapse with a week or two. Well last week June 7 th I went to a suboxone doctor and I sat down and told him everything . He put me on subs. 8 mgs. 3 times a day. It is way too much for me. I was so sick the 2nd day I called his office to let them know and the nurse said it would take at least 2 days for that feeling to go away after getting in my system. So since the 2nd day I cut the subs down myself to a quarter 4 times a day which has been 8 mgs. I need and want help desperatly off of these. ( Subs.) after reading on different websites then coming to this one I have learned alot and I thank everyone especially Robert. At least after getting on the computer and researching myself. the doctors office hasnt called me once to check in on me. It is all about money with these doctors I paid $230.00 for my office visit and of course my prescription of subs. I want off of the pain pills and these subs.. Since its only been 6 days taking suboxone am I over the percocet withdrawls? And also could you please help get me off of the subs? Do I stop at once on them? I just dont know what to do. I have prayed and prayed and I truly believe I have came to the right place and thats here. All I want is to be like I use to be . me, a clean body with no pills in my system and having to rely on a pain pill just to get out of the bed to day started. This is one terrible feeling. If it will work I will do it. Please tell me if I need to wean myself off of the subs. or any information. I do sincerly appreciate any advice and help. Thank you so much.



    With your history the subs can be an asset to get clean, but obviously not at 24mg per day! That dr is clueless! What kind of script did he give you as far as the mg and the quantity of meds? If you got enough from him I can help you taper down and off them in about sixty days. You would never even have to go back and see him if you have enough on hand, and the fact that you've already tapered down to 8mg daily is great!

    You don't want to dose so often. You should only take two doses each day. Subs last a long time and taking them throughout the day is addictive behavior, something we want to eliminate immediately. So give me a little more info and we'll make a plan for you, set you up with your own thread, and get you clean off everything in a short time without a bunch of misery. I know how to do this, done it a long time. God bless. I am not a dr. My statements are based on years of experience and related education. Consult with the professional of your choice regarding matters of concern.
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    Today, 11:34 AM #37 Donnella View Profile View Forum Posts
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    Hi Robert , how do I start a new thread ? I am hoping and praying you can get with me today. I am praying that my post showed up lastnight well it early this morning that my post showed up for you to read with my information about how long I have been on pain pills and then started the suboxone but today is day 7 on the subs and I haven't taken any pain pills since that morning .Please Robert or someone let me know when yall get a chance if they are showing up or not. Meanwhile I am going to google to see how I can make a thread. I am desperate for help. Thank you all so much. Like
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    Today, 11:42 AM #38 Robert_325 View Profile View Forum Posts
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    Hang on. I'll start a thread for you and give you a link to it. Just sit tight. I am not a dr. My statements are based on years of experience and related education. Consult with the professional of your choice regarding matters of concern.
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    There now you have your own thread with all the relevant info on it. Hope this helps. God bless.

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    Hi Robert, I am on the desktop now. The only thing is it doesnt show if I have messages or will I get emails with your replys back ? The doctor gave me a prescription for 90 suboxones / 8 mgs. for 3 times a day. I took what he said to on Day 1 ( June 7th ) last week but it was too much. So the 2nd day I started to them them in quaters. But I would love to be off of them . I havent been out of the house since I started taking them. I feel horrible and also let me mention that he wants he to come back next month for another prescrition this one has no refills. Thanks

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      Hi Robert, I hope that my post showed up. Please let me know if you see it when you get a chance. I would just love to start my sub tapering today ( asap) I will follow everything that you say to do. Thank you.

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        Originally posted by Donnella View Post
        Hi Robert, I am on the desktop now. The only thing is it doesnt show if I have messages or will I get emails with your replys back ? The doctor gave me a prescription for 90 suboxones / 8 mgs. for 3 times a day. I took what he said to on Day 1 ( June 7th ) last week but it was too much. So the 2nd day I started to them them in quaters. But I would love to be off of them . I havent been out of the house since I started taking them. I feel horrible and also let me mention that he wants he to come back next month for another prescrition this one has no refills. Thanks
        Hello Donnella,

        Just wanted to post and offer you some support. I am also new here and working with Robert. Do everything this guy asks you to do and you will have NO problems! I have a thread in the "need to talk" section here and you can take a look there if you choose. Anyway I will be checking on you and hopefully together we can beat this thing! Talk to you soon. Blessings.

        Hugs,
        Karen

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          Hi Robert, i am going to fix me something to eat so I wanted to let you know. I will be back checking the post and letting you know when I am back on. like I said I would really love to start tapering the suboxnes today. I will be back on shortly. Thank you

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            Originally posted by Donnella View Post
            Hi Robert, I am on the desktop now. The only thing is it doesnt show if I have messages or will I get emails with your replys back ? The doctor gave me a prescription for 90 suboxones / 8 mgs. for 3 times a day. I took what he said to on Day 1 ( June 7th ) last week but it was too much. So the 2nd day I started to them them in quaters. But I would love to be off of them . I havent been out of the house since I started taking them. I feel horrible and also let me mention that he wants he to come back next month for another prescrition this one has no refills. Thanks



            I have been in the pool. lol So exactly what dose are you taking right now? We need to get your dose down low and I can taper you off them easily. You won't have to see the dr again, you'll have tons of them left over when we finish. Tell me what you're taking daily, how many times a day and I will reply back to you as soon as I get out of the shower. God bless.

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              Hey Donella,
              Go to the top of the thread and hover your mouse over "thread tools". Under that drop down list you will find "subscribe to this thread". Please subscribe to it. That way anytime a new post is made to this thread you will receive a notification email to the email address that you used when you signed up to the forum. If you have a yahoo email or google you can also download the messanger service and will get an IM each time you receive a new email. If you have an Android or web capable phone I believe you can tweak your settings to receive a text message notification as well. I would also like to re-welcome you, and encourage you to join myself, Karen and some other ladies on our thread in the "Need to Talk" forum. It's called "Looking for a Taper Buddy". It's actually my thread where I met Karen and some other nice ladies. It's always good to have support.

              You've definately come to the right place and remember, you made the right choice getting on sub and cleaning your life up off those nasty pain pills. Your dose is high which is very typical for sub doctors but Robert CAN and WILL help you. He's helping Karen right now and many others. It's just about tweaking your dose and setting up a plan. Your in good hands. Getting down to 8MG was great! Good job, give yourself a pat on the back. As for feeling lousy, it's normal and the fact they gave you way too much of a POTENT drug is not helping. You will feel better and better as your dose goes down. Same thing happened to me. They gave me three 8MG subs, clonidine and trazadone the first time I was inducted onto Sub and I was a mess. I was hitting things driving, getting delerious, dizzy and having awful symptoms. I know and feel your pain. Hang in there woman. I'll be back later! Hugs!
              COMPLETELY CLEAN (Sub FREE) as of 7/20/12

              "I don't like the drugs, but the drugs LIKE ME" Marilyn Manson

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                Donnella ...... talk to me!

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                  Hi Robert, I have been taking 1 suboxone ( 8 mgs. ) splitting it into quarters and taking it 4 times a day. So that is 8 mgs. a day total.

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                    Hi Robert I am having trouble getting on this page when I am on the desktop but when I am on my cellphones ( internet ) I have got it bookmarked and can go right to this page. Hopefully I will learn this on my desktop it just makes it easier to see. I have got to because I need help and want it so bad to get off of the subs. So hopefully you will get this reply back. also, on my cellphone I subscribed ( added ) this group so I can get automatic emails. I am keeping my fingers crossed that this will work. But I am here and thank you so much for taking your time to help me.

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                      Hey Karen, Thank you for your concern and support !! It really means alot. I was taking lortabs and then switched to percocets about a year ago. I first started taking lortabs from having back surgery and my mind and body got addicted to them. I am so tired. I prayed and prayed for help then last week June 7 th I saw a suboxone doctor and explained my situation and then put me on suboxones 8 mgs. 3 times a day. On the 2nd day I felt like I was going to die. I called his office and told them but they said to allow a couple of days for my body to adjust and on the 2nd day I couldnt do it. So thats when I started the subs. my way and I feel better it was just way too much ( the dose ) but after reading on the internet stories how you can become addictive and diffrent things about them I decided I just want completly off of them and of course pain pills. I am hoping that my replys are getting posted where yall can read them especially Robert. God knows my heart and what I am struggling I really do need help tapering down and off of the subs. Thank you so much Karen. It means alot !!

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                        Originally posted by Donnella View Post
                        Hey Karen, Thank you for your concern and support !! It really means alot. I was taking lortabs and then switched to percocets about a year ago. I first started taking lortabs from having back surgery and my mind and body got addicted to them. I am so tired. I prayed and prayed for help then last week June 7 th I saw a suboxone doctor and explained my situation and then put me on suboxones 8 mgs. 3 times a day. On the 2nd day I felt like I was going to die. I called his office and told them but they said to allow a couple of days for my body to adjust and on the 2nd day I couldnt do it. So thats when I started the subs. my way and I feel better it was just way too much ( the dose ) but after reading on the internet stories how you can become addictive and different things about them I decided I just want completely off of them and of course pain pills. I am hoping that my replys are getting posted where yall can read them especially Robert. God knows my heart and what I am struggling I really do need help tapering down and off of the subs. Thank you so much Karen. It means alot !!
                        I'm sure Robert will see your post right here soon. He is just so busy here helping so many people. Sometimes I think there must be 3 of him with all of the people he posts too! Talk to you soon I'm sure.

                        Big Hugs,
                        Karen

                        p.s. by the way there is a thread in the "need to talk" section titled something like: "looking for Taper Buddies". There are several of us there all looking for support through this. We have got a very good thing going and would love for you to be a part of it!

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                          Thank you so much rxqueen83 for your support and information !! Like I said.I am new here I have never been in a group like this. I went to my setting and subscribed like you said so I am waiting for my emails to come with my fingers crossed.

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                            Originally posted by Donnella View Post
                            Hi Robert, I have been taking 1 suboxone ( 8 mgs. ) splitting it into quarters and taking it 4 times a day. So that is 8 mgs. a day total.



                            Donnella ..... Glad we finally got connected here. Actually I fell asleep on the couch! LOL Sorry! I've been out in the sun working a lot today and it just knocked me out. Have been cutting and burning big trees all week and the heat index is like 100 degrees plus! Thank God for my pool, but I've been tired. Know that I'll go to bed early tonight!

                            I'm glad you're at 8mg now. You have dropped from 24mg very quickly. How has that made you feel? I'm concerned that you may still have some residual effects from dropping the sub dose so quickly as it has such a very long half life. Think you should stay at 8mg a couple more days to be safe but we need to change the way you're dosing during that time. Only dose twice daily and at the same time each day in equal amounts.

                            Dose 4mg when you get up and take 4mg at about 5:00 or as close to that as is convenient for you. Dosing four times a day is addictive behavior and we need to stop that. Plus we will be able to see how you feel over the next couple days. If all goes well we will have you reduce by 25% to 6mg daily in a couple days. Let's take it slow these next couple days as I don't want you jumping down too quickly and getting ill from the w/d from the subs. Just trust me and I'll have you on track getting the dose down low very soon. I'm just playing it safe for your benefit the first couple days to protect you! Let me know how you're doing each of the next two days. God bless.

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                              Hi Robert, I just recieved my email for suboxone dose and thank you !! I replied back about the milligrams to let you know on my cellphone. ( I was responding back after it came in and sent it by email ) because I want to start this dosage right away. Now I am on the desktop but I dont see where you sent my reply and I dont see where my reply back to you is on the desktop. I am going to have to find out where to go ( the menu ) on my desktop and other option buttons on here. I hope that you did recieve it. Please let me know when you get a chance. Thank you

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