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  • #91
    Originally posted by kelbel123 View Post
    Cheeky, i forgot to tell u i did buy a pill cutter that makes the pills into a really fine powder. And then i measured out my dosages and then put them in extra pill bottles that i have kept. And then labled each one so i know the rite dosage on the bottles.

    I know u all r rite about my pills and addictions. I suffer from panic and anxiety...so i will at times run straight to the bottle even before my anxiety hits to a 10. Wwell i want u to know that the xanax i take at 2pm everyday, i started to slowly taper so i can get of it. I dint need another addiction. I know i shld only use it if its TRULY NEEDED. No more running to the pills. Im going to try my hardest.

    I am starting to feel shakey again. Is that part of the stablization processes until u find the right dosage?

    Also i forgot to tell u all that when the dr ordered my subutext, he wanted me to start back at 4mg...but i was too scared so i stayed at my normal .5 dose.
    in all honesty kelbel MOST sub doctors have no clue how to use subs properly...not all of them but most actually don't....

    they get patients inducted on high doses of sub and then ur addicted to the med that is designed to get u offdrugs and clean. makes no sense at all. i've seen sub docs put lots of addicts on doses of 8 mg, 10 mg, 24 mg, and even as high as 32 mg in some cases.....that's absolutely nuts!

    u have been on 1 mg for some time now so going UP TO 4 MG makes NO SENSE whatsoever! how could he possibly believe that?! that is crazy!

    u need to stay on 1 mg for now and see how it goes. give it an honest effort and i fully believe u'll be just fine in a day or 2.

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    • #92
      Do exactly what cheeky said: go one dose, mid morning, I believe. Either suboxone or subutex and make sure you have the correct amount. Take it at the same exact time everyday.

      What do you mean about tapering the xanax? How, exactly are you tapering that? How often have you used 2mg. to sleep? I mean besides your daily 1mg. at 2pm.?

      Just follow cheekysod and kikker. Let's try to get you stable on the 1mg. per day, kelbel. I know this is hard.

      Rose

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      • #93
        Originally posted by kelbel123 View Post
        Im sorry cheeky , i dont want u to think i am ignoring you. I felel sooooo blessed having u all here wanting to help. Ok i took the 1 mg like u told me to at 11. I will dose just once a so i stabilize. But what if i continue to get all shakey again even though im doing what u tell me? Does that mean i need a higher dose? Thankyou so much...i love all you guys!!! <3 i will check in and let u know if i get shakey again. Heck ill just keep checking in anyways, u all r such a big support while i have no family here in the state i live to help me.
        and stop with the ''what ifs''', if any trouble pops up post. but until then, stay positive and focus. and dont run to the benzos if you have a wee moment. you gota be strong

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        • #94
          apart from the shaking kelbel. do you feel like you are 'jonesing' 'hanging out' or withdrawing.

          sounds like NO. so stick to the 1mg, kikker, rose, they have been guiding you right all along. once you just stick to the dose you are supposed to take, you are gonna be ok.

          kikker is also right, jeez i had a hard core iv addiction, and i was started on 12mg of sub. far too high. i got down to .5mg in a matter of a couple of months, and stuck there for a while. it was my safety net. even .5 is actually quite strong.
          i gave a friend some a couple of years back (yes bad i know) she was not tolerant to opiates, and didnt abuse them, (speed another story) but i gave her 2mg, and she was sick as a dog. lesson learnt all round. i felt real bad. thats how strong subs are. so its important to dose correctly.

          kikker and rose have not put you wrong, they are helpin you big time. listen

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          • #95
            Ty for the advice on that...i will try that. And to make u feel a bit better i have the 8mg strips that i can cut up perfectly that i still have from before. These 8mg subtexts idk think i will use afteri finish the subutext, i only was ordered five pills to see what kind of reaction i wld get from them. Since the dr knows i dont have the type of ins that wld cover it all as well. Do any of u use the strips and do u guys like them better?


            Originally posted by cheekysod View Post
            im a little bit worried bout you measuring and putting them in pill containers. if it is only a 1mg, it will stick to the sides of the container and you will get less.

            you need to get a clean picture frame glass or mirror, crush your subs up on there. divvy it up into piles, label them. and put up high out of the way in a safe cupboard or something. ok. to take a dose, get a stiff piece of card, playing card, business card, slide it under the powder and pour it under your tongue. no worries ok.

            if you need to take the dose away from home, you can fold it in a piece of tin foil. sounds dodgy but at least you KNOW the dose you are taking.

            that is my biggest worry for you. it seems a bit haphazard ok.

            so 1MG A DAY NOW. OK. stick to that. maybe dont take your clonopin each morning, jeez, we call them dribblers coz they make ya zoned out and dribble, specially when mixed with opiates, which is what sub is. do you know that most sub doctors WILL NOT let you take sub and benzos. very dangerous combo.

            so does your doctor know you are on all of these meds.?

            good on ya, get that attitude right and you will win this battle. its all up to you mate.

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            • #96
              f sake kelbel, its not what we like better. its what WORKS for you. whatever gets you a stable dose is what matters. its no difference to us. i am clean. i dont worry no more. but im tryin to pay it forward. i got help. im giving advice, which i perceive as help. its up to you to take it.

              yup. stick to however you can get 1mg a day. whatever works for YOU. OK.

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              • #97
                its not what makes US feel better. ok. its not for us.

                its for you.... get that right

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                • #98
                  This has got to be so difficult for all of you involved. I know myself how difficult it is to get my mum on her meds accurately, things get missed or not understood. I hope this poster is succesfull and kudos to iloerose and kikker and the bits from cheeky.

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                  • #99
                    Thankyou and you are right i felt so yucky and shakey yesterday, so i called my dr and he said that to go up one more dose. 2mg. So i did. And the rest of the day i started feelin better and better. Last nite i finally felt normal fir once! So i guess since i now found wat works fir me...i just stabilizie on the 2mg at 11am each day and then until i feel better start tapering?

                    This morning i woke up.all.shakey. Nauseated....prob cyz its that time of the month...uhggg.



                    Originally posted by cheekysod View Post
                    f sake kelbel, its not what we like better. its what WORKS for you. whatever gets you a stable dose is what matters. its no difference to us. i am clean. i dont worry no more. but im tryin to pay it forward. i got help. im giving advice, which i perceive as help. its up to you to take it.

                    yup. stick to however you can get 1mg a day. whatever works for YOU. OK.

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                    • Originally posted by cheekysod View Post
                      f sake kelbel, its not what we like better. its what WORKS for you. whatever gets you a stable dose is what matters. its no difference to us. i am clean. i dont worry no more. but im tryin to pay it forward. i got help. im giving advice, which i perceive as help. its up to you to take it.

                      yup. stick to however you can get 1mg a day. whatever works for YOU. OK.
                      It's part of her personality, she's tries to please others and do things to keep them happy - and not realizing that she needs to do things for herself that's in HER best interest and not just for other people's satisfaction.

                      She's also got high levels of anxiety, which makes it hard for her to properly react to stressful "stimuli", because she gets anxious about getting anxious about things that happen. And then she tries to beat the anxiety by medication instead of learning how to cope and deal with things head on.

                      It's a vicious cycle, and one I hope to eventually help her overcome and learn to control...but first, she's got to get through this temporary setback.

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                      • hmmm....u were able to speak to ur doc on a Sunday? wow u must have 1 great sub doctor. but he can't be all that great if he advised u to go UP IN DOSE when u were on such a tiny amt...1 mg.

                        he's no diff from the rest it seems...wants to keep u addicted to the subs so he can add to his bank acct.

                        lets go back to the beginning if we can pls....

                        u were taking 3-6 hydro's a day for ONLY A YR and was stable on 1 mg of sub taking .5 mg twice a day...
                        then u messed up ur dose once and said u were taking the benzo's and clonidine for 'comfort' to feel better.

                        we told u EXACTLY what u should be doing and taking...over and over...
                        now ur UP TO 2 mg....

                        u said u were stable yesterday....now today ur NOT...
                        and blame it on ur 'monthly's'....
                        that is possible i guess...but i'm not really sure of it.

                        will u now take the clonidine and benzo's to help u feel better?
                        i'm not judging u at all, but this is beginning to get far far out of control.

                        don't know how i can help u any longer. u don't WANT IT bad enough it seems.
                        u have lots more sub in ur system now and will have to taper from that amt.

                        if u begin to feel terrible with the 2 mg of sub will u call the doc and go up to 3 mg if he says to do so?

                        lets see what rose and cheekysod have to say about this....

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                        • Originally posted by cagekicker78 View Post
                          It's part of her personality, she's tries to please others and do things to keep them happy - and not realizing that she needs to do things for herself that's in HER best interest and not just for other people's satisfaction.

                          She's also got high levels of anxiety, which makes it hard for her to properly react to stressful "stimuli", because she gets anxious about getting anxious about things that happen. And then she tries to beat the anxiety by medication instead of learning how to cope and deal with things head on.

                          It's a vicious cycle, and one I hope to eventually help her overcome and learn to control...but first, she's got to get through this temporary setback.
                          that makes perfect sense to me and she is very lucky and blessed to have u with her. tks so much for ur post....

                          we're all trying sooo hard to help her cause we have been thru this many many times ourselves and and almost all sub doc's have NOT.

                          that sub is so strong and it it only takes a very tiny amt to do the job in most cases....certainly in her very low addiction amt....

                          tks again for ur comment...keep us updated.

                          Kikker

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                          • Ok 1 mg at 11am i will take only starting today. I will keep.u posted on how im feeling throught the day. I hope i stableize in a couple days. Im tired of not feeling nirmal


                            Originally posted by Kikker View Post
                            that makes perfect sense to me and she is very lucky and blessed to have u with her. tks so much for ur post....

                            we're all trying sooo hard to help her cause we have been thru this many many times ourselves and and almost all sub doc's have NOT.

                            that sub is so strong and it it only takes a very tiny amt to do the job in most cases....certainly in her very low addiction amt....

                            tks again for ur comment...keep us updated.

                            Kikker

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                            • Originally posted by Kikker
                              lets take this slow ok kelbel...pls don't try to rush it.
                              that will only create even more problems for u.

                              u took that extra 1 mg yesterday so we should begin to taper that soon...
                              it's already in ur system so we need to taper from the 2 mg dose now.

                              i suggest u continue to take that 2 mg for a cpl more day now.
                              hopefully u will remain stable on it and then we can begin the taper.

                              u can take the entire 2 mg in 1 dose around noon....
                              or split in in 2 doses of 1 mg each, once in the am and again in the afternoon.

                              if u take 1 dose try to take it around the noon hr.

                              if u drop now from 2 mg to 1 mg suddenly that may cause problems.
                              don't want that again so stay there for 2-3 days ok.

                              just pls don't go UP IN DOSE again for any reason....
                              even if the doc tells u to do it.

                              Okay, i will take the 2mg at noon. Ty for still working with me. I know that u guys know your stuff, i am just scardy cat thats all. Is there anything else u can reccomend that will help? I really want to get as much natural stuff in my body when its time to come off this stuff. Ive read about amino acids also how do you feel about that product called "withdrawl ease?".

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                              • my concern is the amount of benzos in your system as well kelbel. you seem to still have this mentality that you need to TAKE something. to FEEL better. it doesnt work that way.

                                i guess your doc knows best ay.

                                one day you say its the sub makin you shake. next day youve doubled your dose and feel fine. then not.
                                its gettin confusing to say the least... i dont know how to help you any more than what ive told you.

                                but the benzos are a big concern, i ask you again... is it the same doctor prescribing all this stuff.?

                                xanax, clonazepams, subs, clonodine, paxil. ... its a very worrying mix and you should be concerned too.

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