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    Hi I have been on Roxy which is Percocet without the Tylenol for 2 years, 15mg up to 6x daily. I have had several back surgeries and then several stem cell procedures to get me back to painless living. I am not an addict I hated every second of being on Roxy it made me sick everyday, no highs no anything except feeling awful. So that is why my husband and I have had every single natural procedure done to try to help me. The stem cell procedure, (taking of my own stem cells and having them put in specific places in my sacrum) has done the most to help me. I had a walker and I don't use it since getting the 5 stem cell procedure's now so yeah to that. :-) My husband is a Chiropractor and I am an Herbalist so we both try to help the body heal itself through natural means. Me being on pain meds that long has just damaged my spirit I would cry everyday I just hated how I felt, I wasn't myself. So the decision was then made that the pain meds are not working to help my pain anymore my body is now the only thing dependent on them, my mind said I want off. So we went to a specialist and he told me all about SUB (we read all about it first) and how to go into withdrawal and to start the Suboxone. I have been on the SUB 8mg/2mg 1 in the am and 1 in the pm. My 1st day on Suboxone was Tuesday before Thanksgiving to present 13 days. I read in this forum how to go down by 25%, stay on that amount for 4 days then if all went well go down another 25% for 4 days and so on. So I'm praying this is correct I took my strip and cut it in half and then half again to get 4 equal sizes. I took 3 of those strips this am, I will cut the strip and do the same tonight and then for 3 more days and go down 25% again. If this is all correct please let me know. I am very scared and anxious just discussing this. If during those 4 days I do experience withdrawal what might some of those symptoms be and do I take a sliver of SUB to stop the withdrawal effects? Please help me I am so type A I need direction and a plan to feel safe and keep my anxiety at bay and to know that I am doing this correctly. Thank you all in advance for all your knowledge, wisdom and courage. Blessings . FYI I see my SUB dr. Tuesday at noon and will be informing him that I have started the taper.

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    You got started on quite a bit of sub. Yes, you can go ahead and drop to the 12mg. You should not even feel this drop as subs have a long half life, around 72 hours, plus you have quite a bit of sub built up in your system. No, you should not even need to take a sliver of sub. Keep your sub doses spaced around 8 hours or so apart, whatever is comfortable for you. Many people don't even have any symptoms until the lower doses and many don't experience any then or if they do, mild symptoms. So, put your anxiety aside, you can do this as you haven't been on the sub that long. Just remain positive and active. You are exactly on to the right idea, the only thing is that your sub doctor may or may not agree with what you are doing as far as tapering. However, I would argue that many, many, people have gotten off of opiates using this method. Read Alexnt's sub taper or look up Sharksfan.

    Many believe that it takes at least six months before they begin to taper or they do a taper over six months and what the docs wind up with are people addicted to suboxone! And that's not necessary. The sooner you are off the subs the better, which works out around 8-12 weeks tops. You are going to be just fine. Keep posting and others here will help you as well!

    Peace,

    Iloerose

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    • #3
      Thank you so much. I will do the same tonight then and take the 3/4 of the 8mg strip for 3 more days morning and night. Then how much do I cut and how much do I take for the next 4 days? Do I cut that 3/4 of a strip into 4 and take 3/4 of that again for 4 days making it the 25% less each time? Thank you so much :-)

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      • #4
        Originally posted by amydogs View Post
        Thank you so much. I will do the same tonight then and take the 3/4 of the 8mg strip for 3 more days morning and night. Then how much do I cut and how much do I take for the next 4 days? Do I cut that 3/4 of a strip into 4 and take 3/4 of that again for 4 days making it the 25% less each time? Thank you so much :-)
        The Robert_325 taper plan everyone talks about us here: https://www.drugs.com/forum/featured...tml#post220161

        Also, look on you tube for video on how to cut rx film or suboxone. It's not that hard if you have a razor and tweezers.

        The basic idea is seek induction dose, take same dose at same time for four days, if no problems reduce dose 25% and continue for four days, repeat until you are at a very low dose (less than .125mg), then skip one day, dose, skip two days, dose, skip three days, dose, skip four days and the half life has caught up with itself, your done.

        I induced at 2mg once a day and have been tapering for 28 days. Currently at .46mg once a day. Should be down to zero in two or three more weeks. I have had near zero withdrawal while tapering. Near zero = a couple minor headaches that lasted about an hour. May or may not have been related.

        Good luck,

        Lincoln

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        • #5
          Thank you Lincoln I am so happy everyone is really fast to help. Thank you again.

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          • #6
            Amy,
            My doctor prescribed me 8mg film twice a day. When I asked how long it took to taper he replied " it will take 18 months to get you stable". I am SO lucky I researched suboxone and found this site and these people before I started suboxone. I want to be drug free as quickly and painlessly as possible, period. I induced at 2mg and taper program is working for me.

            Good luck,

            Lincoln

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            • #7
              How are you feeling at the 12mg. Your next drop would be to 9 mg. which would be 4.5mg twice a day. So that's half of an 8mg. strip.=4mg. then cut the rest into 4 pieces which will give you 4=1mg. pieces and cut the 1mg. piece in half and that will give you your 4.5mg.

              You can google cutting suboxone strips and get a good idea of how to do it. Also a guy named Harry Smooth created a video to show how to cut it, Linc gave you good advice with the tweezers and a razor or you can use sharp cutical scissors.

              You are going to go good at this Amy!!

              Peace,

              Iloerose

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              • #8
                You really shouldn't have any symptoms at these doses, like Rose said you are on a pretty high dose. You might actually feel better as you drop your dose. Just make sure you are completely stable before you drop, the 4 days isn't set in stone. Listen to your body, try not to increase your dose though. If you are uncomfortable try to distract yourself. Whatever you are feeling will likely pass.

                You sound like you really want this and that's really helpful. This is just as mental as it is physical, if you have your mind right it helps tremendously.

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                • #9
                  Tonight I have severe vertigo, staying in bed. My husband helps me when I need to use the restroom so I don't walk into walls. I took my 3/4 of a strip at 730pm and the vertigo started at 930ish ??? I have a professional hair cutting scissors so I'm just using that to cut the strips. okay so I went from 16mg - 12mg (present) then to 9mg in 3 days. So then 9 mg for 4 days after the 9mg i go down to ??? Mg

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                  • #10
                    Yes I'm on a mission. Ty

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by amydogs View Post
                      Tonight I have severe vertigo, staying in bed. My husband helps me when I need to use the restroom so I don't walk into walls. I took my 3/4 of a strip at 730pm and the vertigo started at 930ish ??? I have a professional hair cutting scissors so I'm just using that to cut the strips. okay so I went from 16mg - 12mg (present) then to 9mg in 3 days. So then 9 mg for 4 days after the 9mg i go down to ??? Mg
                      Hi Amy my name is Alex and welcome to the forums. From 9 mg you would drop to 6.75 but don't worry about that for now. Just stay focused on your current dose for now and deal with further drops when they get here. Like Sharks said the 4 days is not set in stone so if after 4 days at a dose if you don't feel stable its ok to wait an extra day or two if necessary. My best wishes to you on your journey and I will talk to you later.

                      Alex

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                      • #12
                        I will look up the websites you all have suggested but for trust reasons I would rather have you guys tell me the next dose and how to cut it. I have never reached out before for help with anything ever and I'm quite anxious. I seem to have immediately trusted you all with my well being O:-) if none of you mind is it okay if I stick with answers from you all? I'm not to worried about the vertigo tonight it may not even be related, my sinuses are bothering me and the weather is terrible here warm then cold warm then freezing rain, yuck. I'll see how the vertigo is in the morning. I took a meclizine and am going to drink some ginger tea. Blessing always

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                        • #13
                          Again I can't thank everyone enough your all fast to respond and very encouraging, thank you all have sweet dreams and I will let you all know how I am feeling tom. Blessings

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                          • #14
                            Amy ask all the questions you want. Most people new to subs are like that so its all good. I noticed you see your Dr Tuesday and plan on telling him your tapering and that might not be a good idea at this point. Some Doctors believe in keeping patients on subs for a long time and truthfully most Sub Drs are clueless about subs. They take an 8 hr online quiz to get there license to prescribe subs and some will get mad if you tell them your tapering. I never told mine and I did a 4 month taper without her knowing. I was prescribed 16 mg a day so after 6 weeks I had enough subs to finish my taper and just wrote them a letter and informed them I wouldn't be back. Just a thought for you to consider.

                            Alex

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by alexnt View Post
                              Amy ask all the questions you want. Most people new to subs are like that so its all good. I noticed you see your Dr Tuesday and plan on telling him your tapering and that might not be a good idea at this point. Some Doctors believe in keeping patients on subs for a long time and truthfully most Sub Drs are clueless about subs. They take an 8 hr online quiz to get there license to prescribe subs and some will get mad if you tell them your tapering. I never told mine and I did a 4 month taper without her knowing. I was prescribed 16 mg a day so after 6 weeks I had enough subs to finish my taper and just wrote them a letter and informed them I wouldn't be back. Just a thought for you to consider.

                              Alex
                              I agree with Alex, when I went back to my dr. After the first week he asked me how it was going. I told him great. He wrote another script for 30 8mg strips with a refill. According to his plan a 30 day supply. I will never had the need to refill anything.

                              I'm not mad at the dr. Nor do I resent him. He is doing what the manufacturer recommends. IMO the more they sell the more $$$ they make. I know that a strong accusation but, I can't think of any other reason I would be so over prescribed.

                              I'm still new around here. Followed advice from Alex, Rose, Sharks and the others and can say this taper plan works.

                              You can do this too,

                              Lincoln

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