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  • #31
    To be totally honest my joints don't hurt that bad at all. Certainly not bad enough for pain meds. Just barely enough at what I call "Tylenol level pain" when I walk its annoying. But Im just gonna try to lay around as much as possible today to push through and go as long as I can without dosing. Nothing in my system since Sat at 9:00 am. No stomach ache, No "jitters" no chills. Just a few achy joints but I ran around all day yesterday. Im so excited! One day at a time! Wish me luck!!!!

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    • #32
      HeavyConscious- Its been over 30 days for you right?!! How are you feeling?

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      • #33
        I was reading thru your thread...how ya doin with everything... do you mind if i ask how your mom is? I too am watching my mom suffer and scared for her as she too is down to less then a hundred pounds..... hang in ther i know its hard to see a loved one go thru something like that....especially when we are trying to get better ourselves...my heart goes out to you and really hope the both of you are doing well and glad you have support...anyway peace jay

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        • #34
          Originally posted by jayryan View Post
          I was reading thru your thread...how ya doin with everything... do you mind if i ask how your mom is? I too am watching my mom suffer and scared for her as she too is down to less then a hundred pounds..... hang in ther i know its hard to see a loved one go thru something like that....especially when we are trying to get better ourselves...my heart goes out to you and really hope the both of you are doing well and glad you have support...anyway peace jay
          No I don't mind at all! Back when my Mom was struggling at her worst was when I was pregnant with my 2nd child so that was 7 years ago. Today she is doing much much better. She has a medical condition, so she has to be on some sort of pain medication to function but is healthy now and has things under control and gained her weight back. Back then was definitely her rock bottom. I will be honest with you.....I KNOW had I not took a stand and done something drastic she would have killed herself and overdosed or died from side effects of being so unhealthy on the meds. She could barely stay awake and could barely have a conversation she was on so many different meds. Different Drs too it was bad. I remember calling a Drs office cursing and threatening to sue the Dr if my mother died from mixing meds, because he was prescribing her things that were not to be mixed with what she was on already. I called every Dr and told them she was seeing other Drs, I will sue if I see another prescription and she passes away because of this. I was desperate. By far the worst off I have ever seen anyone in my life and I've had a rough life. One bit of advice...is sometimes even your own parents need you to stand up to them for them. When someone is beyond the point of no return and too drugged to even think straight to make a conscious decision...it takes drastic measures. It takes a massive kick in the ass. I just decided enough is enough..I'm not going to sit back and watch my Mom die. It was probably by far the hardest thing I have ever had to do in my life, I cried every single day....but shes better because of it. It was hard, but I begged her to come "visit" and I secretly setup an appointment with a rehab counselor. I drove her there and the lady took one look at her and she got sent to the hospital for medical detox. She was there for two weeks. Just to show you how severe 2 weeks is in a hospital is these days....my husband crashed going 80 mph snapped his ankle clean off and had it sewn back together..he was sent home in ONE week. Thats how physically ill she had become. So malnourished from forgetting to eat or drinking hardly. You forget when someone is on meds and losing weight, food=life, those vitamins are vital to your life. She had to be put on an IV because her potassium levels were so low. They said they didn't see her making it another week had I not brought her in. Without potassium and all those vitamins we need your heart can just stop. Its not JUST overdose that can kill you. So much more to it. If your Mom is underweight...and out of control. IF you fear for her life at all, help her. Get her into rehab. It could save her life. BUT you have to be willing to be the bad guy, be hated at times for putting her through the pain of detoxing. I just was so desperate I didn't even care, she might have hated me then but she's alive today. You can't tip toe around feelings, you can't hide how your feeling. You can't sugar coat things. Don't hide it. Tell your Mom how you feel, at her soberest. At her most coherent sit her down and just tell her I'm AFRAID for you. Dont do this to me, don't make me watch you kill yourself. I know it hurts you more then it hurts her, she might not even know, she might think your not affected...she might not know the severity of it and be making excuses until you get 100% honest and just pour your heart out. I know how you feel :/ a lot of people know the struggle of addiction but not many know the feeling of sitting back feeling helpless being on the other side watching the one person your supposed to be able to come to when YOU need help, when that person is lost in their own world. Life is 10 times harder, your lost yourself. No matter how old you get you always need that older wiser parent figure to run to. When you don't have that life is rough. Don't sit back though, thats my only advice. Don't take no for an answer. Tell her if she loves you she would take the help. If not you can't torture yourself watching her die and you wont be around to see it, and that yes it is a big deal, it is real and it is hurting you. Thats all you can do and hope for the best. Keep trying! Never give up. My Mom is alive, yes shes not 100% off any prescriptions but she's still trying and loves her kids enough to not to that to us again so she is healthy. In the meantime take care of yourself, learn from your Mom's mistakes, this stuff is no joke. The sooner you can get healthy the better. Feel free to message me here anytime if you need any advice.

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          • #35
            So you haven't had any sub since Saturday, are you already on your 2 day skip? Great job! I am a very busy mom, too. No time to be "sick" with the kids, activities, and school, plus I work part time. I just went down to .75 today. Thanks for the inspiration. If you can do it so can I.

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            • #36
              LOL I am just testing the waters...waiting for all hell to break loose but so far it hasn't! If I make it through today I make it....if I need it I got it and I will take it because I made it ONE whole day at least! Yes you can do it and you'll feel so much better. Last week emotionally I was a mess thinking I couldn't do it, and this week I'm feeling so much better. You will be able to function....and if you need a day off, take it. Life will still be there tomorrow...I know its hard but if you feel like your not accomplishing anything by taking an off day if the house isn't getting cleaned and you gotta order pizza for dinner. Your bettering yourself. Gotta take care of you before you can take care of anyone else! Congrats on your drop! You got this supermom!

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              • #37
                Hey Alex, How are you? (I saw your like there ) Hope your well. I was trying to occupy my time yesterday going through some threads I saw something about your back. Hope its better by now? That is my biggest fear...going through all this only to get injured and need some sort of pain medication to function. Blah.

                Anyways....so I made it from 9:00 am Saturday Morning...to 7:35 pm precisely last night (every minute counts lol) before I took the .125 mg dose again. So since I made it almost two full days I'm gonna try to push it a little further again this time. So if I dosed at 7:35 PM last night....I can't dose until AFTER 7:35 pm TOMorrow night! GASP GASP CHOKE lol....Sounds like a huge feat. I'm hoping I can just fall asleep and not think about it. Honestly looking back...It wasn't all that bad, I've felt MUCH worse. Just for some reason my right ankle (my driving ankle..and I drive a lot coincidently) and my right hip kills. A teeny bit of hot and cold flashes but nothing too unmanageable just annoying. Just felt a little gross and changed a lot and caked on the body spray all day (sorry just being honest). JUST when I thought I couldn't take the annoying joint pain and took that dose...I also put some icy hot on my ankle and dammit if it didn't take away the pain before the subs kicked in even. So I probably could've gone without. :/ Damn. Getting a little impatient and ready for this to be over! I'm just gonna see how I feel from now on. If in two days I'm not feeling too bad I might just keep going with it and jump! Ya never know!

                OH and I am catching up on the show Lost (idk if any of you have seen it I'm so late lol...) and of COURSE it was the episode where the guy was kicking H. (Because they're stuck on an island and he ran out) I got SO sucked in and found myself hardcore rooting for him. This older man was holding his stash from him trying to help him get clean and he said "I will let you choose. You asked 2 times for it back and the 3rd time you ask...I WILL give it back." So you watch this guy sweat and look like death and he asks twice....shamefully but desperate.... Then another day goes by and hes super sick I mean sick.... and then he asks the third time, the old man hands him his stash.....AND HE THROWS IT INTO A FIRE HIMSELF! YES! YESsss!!!! I was so happy for him...haha. Then I took my dose of sub because my ankle was killing :/ and felt really weak for doing it. Especially after watching that. But I will kick this! I will throw it "into the fire myself"...maybe a toilet if I get ballsy?
                Last edited by Anonymous; 04-08-2014, 09:08 AM.

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                • #38
                  Some inspiration..because I need it and incase anyone else does...

                  "Either you run the day, or the day runs you. –Jim Rohn"

                  "If you hear a voice within you say “you cannot paint,” then by all means paint and that voice will be silenced. –Vincent Van Gogh"

                  "The only person you are destined to become is the person you decide to be. –Ralph Waldo Emerson"

                  "Believe you can and you’re halfway there. –Theodore Roosevelt"

                  "Start where you are. Use what you have. Do what you can. –Arthur Ashe"

                  "It takes more then a voice to teach your child, to take action and have the strength to be the kind of person that you'd want your child to be."

                  "If you want to lift yourself up, lift up someone else. –Booker T. Washington"

                  "It does not matter how slowly you go as long as you do not stop. –Confucius"

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                  • #39
                    Just wanted to check in and say good luck with your skip days! Sounds like you're doing great.

                    As everyone says, so much of the process is now a mental battle, rather than physical. Stay strong and you will do just fine.

                    Keep us posted.
                    Kat

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Iwantoff2013 View Post
                      Just wanted to check in and say good luck with your skip days! Sounds like you're doing great.

                      As everyone says, so much of the process is now a mental battle, rather than physical. Stay strong and you will do just fine.

                      Keep us posted.
                      Kat
                      Thanks....I know I know..ugh lol time is definitely crawling by today. I've been feeling waves of anxiousness come and go like I need to be doing something I just don't have much motivation to do anything. Just trying to keep my mind off how I feel. The thing that irks me the most is I have SO much laundry to do and I don't have the energy to do it all in one day. Our washer broke for about 2 weeks so I'm still playing catch up on laundry. Irks me that I don't have the energy to knock it out. Then don't get me started on my kids rooms...hurricane Katrina rolled through apparently while we were sleeping . I just shut the door the past few days and I'm trying to stay in the clean parts of my house so I don't drive myself crazy lol. The mess will be there when I feel better right? Still very frustrating. I've just been doing the bare minimum to function today. I don't feel sick but I don't feel well...if that makes sense. Wish I could sleep through today and tomorrow! THAT is what Drs need to come up with...something that will knock us out for days while we are withdrawing and we wake up magically feeling better. How nice would that be? Then again if there were no such thing as withdrawals I'm sure a lot of us would be in a deeper hole then we were in before. No consequences for our actions...it would be all over. So I guess I'm kinda glad to feel like this just all the more reason to NEVER do this >>>> again! Whew. I almost feel like I'm being punished.

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                      • #41
                        Hurricane Katrina in the bedroom....lol..too funny.

                        I hear ya! My dining room table has become a paperwork-stacked nightmare. Old bills to be shredded, stuff that needs to be filed, a couple piles of my son's clothes to be returned. Kill me. Everyday I swear I'm gonna work on it and I never do. So I'm pretty much doing what you're doing - staying in the clean parts of the house! I work from home and my son is only 20 mos.. so some days I don't get anything else done.

                        Yep, sleeping through WD would be nice. But, as someone once said -- "we danced with the devil, now he wants his due". Ain't that the truth. Although, a sub taper is nothing like full cold turkey WD! We can be thankful for that!

                        What's the brand of energy chews you take?
                        Kat

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Iwantoff2013 View Post
                          Hurricane Katrina in the bedroom....lol..too funny.

                          I hear ya! My dining room table has become a paperwork-stacked nightmare. Old bills to be shredded, stuff that needs to be filed, a couple piles of my son's clothes to be returned. Kill me. Everyday I swear I'm gonna work on it and I never do. So I'm pretty much doing what you're doing - staying in the clean parts of the house! I work from home and my son is only 20 mos.. so some days I don't get anything else done.

                          Yep, sleeping through WD would be nice. But, as someone once said -- "we danced with the devil, now he wants his due". Ain't that the truth. Although, a sub taper is nothing like full cold turkey WD! We can be thankful for that!

                          What's the brand of energy chews you take?
                          Kat
                          I responded in your post about the chews. Zoom. I had to take a 1/2 of the .125 about an hour ago. Idk what happened with today but I got this crazy strong heartburn feeling in my chest. Like bad acid indigestion my chest was on FIRE...and a stomach ache. I caved for the day. At least I took the bare minimum to get rid of it I guess...sigh. My husband keeps yelling at me about taking Tylenol so much, hes a worrier. I've already taken the Tylenol about an hour before the burning sensation so there was nothing else to take. It was pretty debilitating. Ouch. Idk if anyone else experienced that. I haven't had heartburn since I was pregnant. Never get it. So to add to the list of Withdrawal meds...some Mylanta maybe. Wish I had some here I would've taken that instead. I've got an OTC pharmacy going on in my house here with the amount of meds and remedies...you'd think I would have some Pepto or Mylanta or something. The burning was just too much to bear. So weird. Aww 20 mths old is a handful in itself lol....and boys too are active. At least my youngest is 4 he can all but fend for himself. I just need to feed him and help him get dressed and supervise him/keep him entertained. 20 mths old they are all over the place. I def feel your pain! Also LOL about the table. I like to cram things in decorative baskets lately and call it a day! Looks clean to me!

                          I can't wait until I'm back to my old self again. I go crazy not having the energy to do what I want to do....I have a massive to do list and I think thats almost as worse as the withdraws themselves. Not being able to do certain things its like torture. As far as the devil comment...Oh he is taking his due and some...I def agree. Play with fire you will get burned (heartburn! lol). That heartburn was traumatizing! Scared me for a sec I had to check my heartbeat...until I burped then felt better I was like whew I'm not dying LOL. Withdrawing makes me question every little pain I'm like...am I withdrawing or what is this? Can't wait til this is done with! Now I gotta regroup my plan. Do I try to skip tomorrow? Or try staying on half of .125 (I don't even know how to calculate that dose..but its half) for a few days then skip? I'm torn now. I hope the heartburn was a fluke side effect from an upset stomach.

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                          • #43
                            Also....Something Jay said about addicts being selfish got me thinking. Just wanted to say thank you all so much for the support and positivity. So glad I made an acct here and am getting the chance to know you guys Alex, Kat, you've both been so nice to give your advice. Now Amber and Jay....hope you guys stick around too and we can all do this together and help each other lord knows we need all the help we can get.

                            Alright NOW enough sappiness!!!!! LOL. Off to handle some serious business. Dinner.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by GettinItOverWith View Post
                              I responded in your post about the chews. Zoom. I had to take a 1/2 of the .125 about an hour ago. Idk what happened with today but I got this crazy strong heartburn feeling in my chest. Like bad acid indigestion my chest was on FIRE...and a stomach ache. I caved for the day. At least I took the bare minimum to get rid of it I guess...sigh. My husband keeps yelling at me about taking Tylenol so much, hes a worrier. I've already taken the Tylenol about an hour before the burning sensation so there was nothing else to take. It was pretty debilitating. Ouch. Idk if anyone else experienced that. I haven't had heartburn since I was pregnant. Never get it. So to add to the list of Withdrawal meds...some Mylanta maybe. Wish I had some here I would've taken that instead. I've got an OTC pharmacy going on in my house here with the amount of meds and remedies...you'd think I would have some Pepto or Mylanta or something. The burning was just too much to bear. So weird. Aww 20 mths old is a handful in itself lol....and boys too are active. At least my youngest is 4 he can all but fend for himself. I just need to feed him and help him get dressed and supervise him/keep him entertained. 20 mths old they are all over the place. I def feel your pain! Also LOL about the table. I like to cram things in decorative baskets lately and call it a day! Looks clean to me!

                              I can't wait until I'm back to my old self again. I go crazy not having the energy to do what I want to do....I have a massive to do list and I think thats almost as worse as the withdraws themselves. Not being able to do certain things its like torture. As far as the devil comment...Oh he is taking his due and some...I def agree. Play with fire you will get burned (heartburn! lol). That heartburn was traumatizing! Scared me for a sec I had to check my heartbeat...until I burped then felt better I was like whew I'm not dying LOL. Withdrawing makes me question every little pain I'm like...am I withdrawing or what is this? Can't wait til this is done with! Now I gotta regroup my plan. Do I try to skip tomorrow? Or try staying on half of .125 (I don't even know how to calculate that dose..but its half) for a few days then skip? I'm torn now. I hope the heartburn was a fluke side effect from an upset stomach.
                              LOL...your posts crack me up! It's funny you mentioned the heartburn. I've had that happen several times over the last few months. And I never got heartburn before. Weird. I have no idea where it's coming from, but it hurts! I have to gag down some Alka Seltzer or Mylanta. Really bizarre.

                              I agree, having a support group here of other members is awesome. I also go to NA & AA meetings, which for me are absolutely necessary. My temporary sponsor is really cool. She's a recovering alcoholic and painkiller addict, so she totally gets it.

                              As far as your skip days, I would just get right back on the horse! You already completed one skip day, right? So, you could either start over and skip one day, or try skipping two. Do what's comfortable. You're so close now!

                              Kat

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                              • #45
                                Ok so since I took 1/2 the .125mg yesterday. I'm gonna TRY my hardest again today to skip. If today was anything like yesterday...if I start feeling too >>>>>>, then I'm gonna take 1/2 the .125 mg again for today. My theory is, worst case scenario I'll stabilize on an even lower dose and my skips will be even easier. I woke up actually feeling kind of refreshed today. Better then yesterday most def. I didn't even need to take any b12 or vitamins this morning just a cup of coffee and I don't feel fatigued or sluggish in the least bit. Hope that gives you guys something to look forward to! Feeling better!!! I'm gonna give it a days rest off all my vitamins incase some concoction of vitamins caused that killer heartburn. The only thing that I already feel now starting to feel aggrivated again is my right ankle grr. So annoying. I already took an Aleve it just takes the edge off...it starts feeling worse the more I walk then by the end of the night it is throbbing. On a positive note my right hip stopped hurting lol. So one down one more symptom to go! I've never had joint pain in my life so I know its the withdrawals from the subs. Anyone know of any good remedies? Any secret cream I should buy? I have, thermacare heat patches, Aleve, Tylenol, and Icy Hot. Icy hot works....I'm just over smelling like a pack of gum all day lol. Plus the hot/cold sensations I feel just aggravate the hot and cold flashes I already get. No chills today so far! Yesterday I felt really slight ones here and there. As long as I can get this ankle pain under control and off to buy some Mylanta and heartburn remedies just incase. I should be ok! Wish me luck..busy day today.

                                "Pain is nothing compared to what it feels like to quit."
                                Last edited by Anonymous; 04-09-2014, 09:13 AM.

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