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  • #76
    I'm officially calling it! 8:00 Weds PM was JUMP DAY! I feel amazing today I really do. Compared to where I was mentally 2 weeks ago...SO anxious and just scared of what was to come, doubting if I had it in me to do this. I did it !!!!! I really did it! You guys can do this. You can so do this...just don't turn back. Push through day by day.

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    • #77
      Originally posted by GettinItOverWith View Post
      No actually I don't have any clonidine...I keep reading about it. Wish I did! How did you order it from Canada? I notice my blood pressure up here and there. Not too too much just slightly. I can tell because in between my fingers get red and my ring feels tighter. My feet I can def tell by night when I'm standing. The taurine helps for a few hours I just don't want to take too much. I haven't taken a dose since Weds! So I'm officially declaring last Weds Jump day! This is NOT bad at all! I swear to you the tapering was harder then the jump. Probably between 0.75-.125mg was the hardest. Pretty much what your experiencing now. Then once I pretty much stabilized on the .125mg it got easier and got over that fear of every little symptom that arose. I slept really good last night again! So NO RLS so far (unlike with opiates I'd have it bad) Today is day 3 and right now I feel slightly a little more tired, but I've been running around since 8:00 this morning and just spent 4 ridiculous hours in traffic. So I think after sitting in the car that long tired me out. I really feel 90% normal. It is insane! Getting past the first full day without a dose was the hardest the day seemed to crawl by. Day 2 peice of cake...today was the first day I haven't thought about suboxone ALL day until now. That was just to update you guys. I haven't wanted ANYTHING or felt like I needed ANYthing! I'm impressed and relieved! You guys will see its just a bunch of anxiety about feeling bad that makes you feel the worse. Then you will realize you had nothing to be afraid of. Esp you Jay. If you've been through H withdrawal your gonna LAUGH once you see just really how harmless this is. Once this heartburn goes away I will be 100%. My energy levels are good! I had no problem getting up and getting ready this morning and taking my exam. I def owe that to the B12 and taurine. Thats 1000 mcg b12.
      Congrats on your jump! I'm so happy for you. It's so great to hear that you're feeling well. Awesomeness!!

      I think I have a supplement with taurine in it. Gonna check it out. I still haven't had time to pick up the Zoom energy stuff. My life is crazy...so busy every day. But that's a good thing. It keeps me from obsessing about my taper all day! Lol.

      Now the real work of staying clean begins...
      Be happy. You did great!
      Kat

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Iwantoff2013 View Post
        Congrats on your jump! I'm so happy for you. It's so great to hear that you're feeling well. Awesomeness!!

        I think I have a supplement with taurine in it. Gonna check it out. I still haven't had time to pick up the Zoom energy stuff. My life is crazy...so busy every day. But that's a good thing. It keeps me from obsessing about my taper all day! Lol.

        Now the real work of staying clean begins...
        Be happy. You did great!
        Kat
        Sorry I tried replying a few times yesterday from my phone but I guess it didn't work. I woke up feeling a little more tired today, I guess thats to be expected being day 4, a little out of breath here and there and just dragging a bit. I took some b12 and taurine so just waiting for those to kick it to hopefully help with that. I still don't feel bad enough to take another dose though, thankfully. No chills still, no more sweats, slept good last night..heart burn calmed down enough so now I guess the final symptom is low energy/motivation. I feel you Kat too much to do in a day, my husband works a lot pretty hard labor, plus has a bad ankle so I'm on my own most of the time. He tries to help with what he can but theres just sooo much to do. I have school and my house, and the kids to keep up with. Have to go grocery shopping AGAIN today already, wish I knew of a grocery shopping delivery service for cheap, that would be AMazinG. Can't afford to keep picking up fast food for dinner lol. So just feeling it a little more today but I'll live. I don't want to prolong this process any longer. I can at least function like this and I'm still pretty comfortable so I will survive. How is your drop going?

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        • #79
          Originally posted by GettinItOverWith View Post
          Sorry I tried replying a few times yesterday from my phone but I guess it didn't work. I woke up feeling a little more tired today, I guess thats to be expected being day 4, a little out of breath here and there and just dragging a bit. I took some b12 and taurine so just waiting for those to kick it to hopefully help with that. I still don't feel bad enough to take another dose though, thankfully. No chills still, no more sweats, slept good last night..heart burn calmed down enough so now I guess the final symptom is low energy/motivation. I feel you Kat too much to do in a day, my husband works a lot pretty hard labor, plus has a bad ankle so I'm on my own most of the time. He tries to help with what he can but theres just sooo much to do. I have school and my house, and the kids to keep up with. Have to go grocery shopping AGAIN today already, wish I knew of a grocery shopping delivery service for cheap, that would be AMazinG. Can't afford to keep picking up fast food for dinner lol. So just feeling it a little more today but I'll live. I don't want to prolong this process any longer. I can at least function like this and I'm still pretty comfortable so I will survive. How is your drop going?
          Hi there. I just replied to you on my thread. I'm doing ok, thanks for asking. The sweats/chills aren't too bad. Just tired and unmotivated, but what's new...lol. Gotta clean my house today. My floors need to be mopped like no one's business. My son is gonna go hang out with my parents for a few hours so I can get things done.

          I'm so glad you're doing well. It's inspiring!
          Kat

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          • #80
            Haha, I was just replying again on your thread as you typed this. My motivation is slowly coming back, but I remember the days that washing a load of clothes was a HUGE accomplishment. When I was feeling my worst, whenever my husband asked what I did that day I said "bettering myself" lol. It's true though! That's what your doing..which is priority over anything else. It does help forcing yourself to take care of those things that really really bother you though. I know I can't stand things on my floor...and with 3 kids it happens daily. I had to crawl around with a clothes basket sometimes just picking things up and put that basket out of sight. It helped lol. Sometimes your just SO tired through this process. It isn't easy. Today I'm still trying to muster the energy to go grocery shopping LOL. I've been trying since this morning. I might just end up grabbing some necessities again. Whatever we gotta do though to make it through! We wil be back to 100% sooner or later.

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            • #81
              My last post of the day. LOL. Its sunday...lazy day. I really need to go get some errands done today. So aside from being a little low on energy I generally feel SO much better without anything. It feels good. Mentally I feel great, physically I feel comfortable and I know I'll just keep waking up feeling better and better. So all this time worried about Jumping seems like I was worried for nothing. Nothing I couldn't handle anyways. If anyone out there wanting to do this is reading (like I did for weeks and weeks) you can do this! Don't be afraid! You can do anything you put your mind to.

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              • #82
                I just heard some good news I figured I'd share. My best friend I grew up with has an older sister I've known since I was like 10 years old. Anyways...over the years she got deep into abusing pills...starting injecting a few years ago. Last I heard she was mess. It was very sad she lost everything because of it. I just learned that her husband went to jail ( for a long long time). Well turned out that was the best thing that could possibly happen to her. It prompted her to get clean. She is now clean for the first time in 10 years! Her husband was her worst influence and I guess just having that major life change helped her get away from all the people that influenced her using, is what helped her. It's like my Mom always told me, you play with dirt...your bound to get dirty. Getting away from the bad influences around us really helps, and if they don't understand you have to love yourself enough to get away from them. Anyways, she is clean today and happier then ever. Getting a new chance at life again. Another success story against this nightmare epidemic. I love a good underdog story, figured I'd share.

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                • #83
                  @ Gettin it over with....so you got 4 days no sub watsoever? and your feeling relatively ok? That's awesome....i wouldn't worry about the clonidine at this point because by the time you get it you won't need it lol...btw if someone else needs clonidine it is really easy to get but its a grey area i don't want to divulge too much info on just google it.

                  um what else was i gonna say..oh how's your sleep? energy level are you experiencing any fatigue or maliese?

                  I guess i would recomend to just keep doing it is watever your doing to be succesful....
                  i tend to reach for comfort meds but i guess the idea is to only use the minimal amount necassary...but diet exccersize seem to be best....
                  anyways sounds like you got your bases covered and are doing good....seeing you.do this gives me hope for myself and others...and your positive attitude is something that i aspire to have...all i can say is its awesome your not taking subs and keep up the good work!!! Jay

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                  • #84
                    Btw i completely agree with you on bad influences...in fact years ago i was sucjh a bad influence and don't blame people for ditching me.... so hopefully her husband will understand that too.... but ya that's so true...i can't count how many friends that are either dead in prison or still using..
                    had to break free from al that..and its good to see your friend do the same....she just has to love herself enouf to beleive she better then that and doesn't owe those people ANYTHING...neways you and her keep up the good work and if she goes back to using make sure she don't drag you with her ya know..anyways...ttyl jay

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                    • #85
                      Day 5! Well I think its official I have nothing in my system left. I woke up with some minor aches. Nothing too horrible, still a little fatigued if I try doing too much/ go to fast but hopefully I will just start feeling better and better as the days go by. Today I feel it the most but still not too bad.

                      Jay: I'm sleeping good! Even better then when I was weaning. I think giving my body 2 1/2 weeks at .125 helped me in the long run just adjust easier to prepare for the jump. I don't think it was as big a shock to the body with nothing in my system. Fatigue is there but nothing too terrible, I can still function and my mood is def lifted. I was able to go grocery shopping earlier though my legs are a little achy. I was in a rush this morning and ran out the door without any vitamins, aleve etc. to get my kids off to school, then just headed straight to run some errands. So that was with no help of anything in my system and I started feeling a little achy. If this is the worst of it though I'm not complaining! Just that familiar achiness. I hear day 7 is the best so hopefully by Weds the achiness will pass. It's a really light achiness. Pretty much like being on your feet all day. I really can't compare what I'm feeling to any sort of withdrawal I've ever experienced its definitely been easy hopefully it will be the same for you guys! It surely isn't anything to be afraid of I can't help but still be a little on edge waiting for things to get worse but I can hang with this. (knock on wood lol) I feel better than being on Suboxone though. Plus I'm not thinking about it ALL day long obsessing. Just thinking of you guys, hoping things go well for you all when your weaning is done.

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                      • #86
                        By easy withdrawal symptoms I'm talking strictly about the Jump. Not the weaning process itself. That definately wasn't easy. I felt it full force at times, just like you guys. The chills, hot and cold flashes. Freezing all the time but sweating at the same time. Super emotional. I think thats the worst part of it all is getting caught up in the emotions. Your not in your right mind while weaning so it gets really difficult at times to not feel sorry for yourself. Thinking you'll NEVER feel ok again. Maybe your stuck like this forever...maybe you need pain medication forever to function. Esp when the withdrawal symptoms hit. You just have to know you WILL feel better without anything. Just attribute everything to the withdrawal...and just know once your body adjusts (which it usually does....the human body is an amazing thing. Adaptation is what it is best at...). Those aches, and pains will subside the moodiness will subside just give it a chance. I know you mentioned Wellbutrin. I'm not knocking it but I was put on it for ADHD for a short bit years ago. I just didn't feel like myself. Exactly like suboxone like a zombie. I HIGHLY highly recommend just giving your body a good good shot to produce its own endorphins. Stimulants (like wellbutrin) stimulate dopamine production the same. So the moral of this story is no matter what...when you finish the wellbutrin your body will STILL need to work on producing Dopamine and Serotonin, endorphins etc all those "feel good" chemicals your body is going to have to relearn once you stop the Wellbutrin. (I'm saying this from what I've learned in pharmacology) In my opinion, if your going through this wean giving your body ALL this time to adjust then you just jump on Wellbutrin your gonna have to adjust again once that's over. I'm sure it is easier to get off this with Wellbutrin. Your gonna have to get off the Wellbutrin sooner or later also. I had bad anxiety, and exhaustion coming off that. Again not knocking it for those who truly need it. Just my personal experience and my opinion! Give your body a good fighting chance to balance out all those chemicals once again. It will be easier on you in the long run! There is so many vitamins (which are also technically "drugs" because they are chemicals that react in our bodies, which is what drugs are) but they are natural chemical substances to our body (most of them). Our body is used to adapting to natural vitamins much easier, theres no withdrawal, no crash. Doesn't mess up the chemical composition of your brain etc. So I think your on the right track with the vitamins Jay. Your not going to "feel them" working always but they are your just giving your body the best shot to heal itself. Anyways just some advice about that! My opinion based strictly on experience, and from what I've learned about drugs and vitamins and how they react with our bodies, in pharmacology. Not intended to offend anyone who went that route. You want to be clean. Thats being 100% clean. No mind altering substances. You wont know which is your body still coping without suboxone or which is a side effect from another drug. I say give it a GOOD 6 months with nothing. Sounds like a lifetime but if you've been on Suboxone or other drugs so long, you gotta give your body time for fully adjusting. Just my opinion! So how are you doing at .5??? Feeling better?

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                        • #87
                          I just wanted to drop in real quick and say congrats! It is super awesome you did it. Wow, 5 days without sub. And seems like you did it pretty painlessly. Reading your posts really give me encouragement and motivation and think that this won't be so bad. You said you felt it more in your tapering, and so far mine has been really easy. I am so happy for you.

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                          • #88
                            Oh and I was gonna ask about taurine. What is it and where do I get it? The only thing I'm taking now is a "super B complex" vitamin. Thanks.

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                            • #89
                              Man you got a positive attitude...and gives me a lot of hope the withdrawal will be berable....so you think it was staying at .125 for a few weeks is what made the actuall quitting not so bad?...i agree with you about not taking anything to let your body have a chance to get back to normal function withought drugs...i want that so bad as well... unfortunately i do take a few over the counter meds and supplements to attempt to help like we all do....and ya i get these whimsical idea such as the wellbutrin...i want to quit smoking next and thought perhaps it would help....

                              as far as aches and pains what do you usually take? You mentioned aleive...

                              are your emotions stable...i mean you always sound positive and happy here....

                              anyways you really sound like your doing great considering

                              and ya I'm at .5 first two days and even this morning hit pretty hard...its like I'm ok one minute and not the next...its bearable and I'm trucking thru....i think its the emotions gettin to me...and my leg (just the left one) is absolutely killing me...got me.frustrated dunno what i did to it have tried soaking in epsom salt and have it elevated...had to call into work today

                              anyways I'm trying to get out of my feeling sorry for myself so decided to check on all you guys and see your progress
                              it truly cheers me up to see you doing so well and gives me tons of hope!!!
                              i know you wouldn't steer me wrong and just wish i could be of more support but sounds like you got this! No doubt....keep up the good work for sure!!! Jay

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by auburn girl View Post
                                Oh and I was gonna ask about taurine. What is it and where do I get it? The only thing I'm taking now is a "super B complex" vitamin. Thanks.
                                Hey! How are you doing with your drop/dealing with the kids and life (which is the hardest part!)? Aww and Thanks! I'm still not in the clear yet I know. Today I've felt it the most since my jump but I'm hanging in there! Feeling really positive now, I know it won't last much longer. Mentally I'm on a much better level. NO longer feeling frustrated or stuck in a funk. I wouldn't go SO far to say "painlessly" more like AS painless as could be I guess. Withdrawals are withdrawals...no way around them. Like Kat said-"We danced with the devil and now he wants his DUE." He def got his due from me.....lol. Cold chills sweats, wretched achiness. I just tried to make it as easy on myself as possible, beats cold turkey. It is not easy especially mentally, very frustrating at times and somedays were much harder then others. A big feat but definitely do able with the right mindset. Just have to refuse to feel sorry for yourself. We got ourselves in, so its up to us to get ourselves out. The mental aspect is definitely the hardest. Staying positive when your not feeling too hot. Just gotta baby yourself at times and at times tell yourself suck it up and lets do this! Have to push through, which you will because giving up isn't an option! Right? I'd love to see you guys all get through it and live the life you want to live. Its NOT easy but thats a good thing. I saw this quote "I always have another buzz in me but I do NOT have another withdrawal left in me." Just another reason to stay away from what put us in this position in the first place! Just more to be proud of, once you push through it. Just keep that in mind always. You seem to be pushing through! Keep me posted! I'm waiting to cheer after your jump day!

                                Taurine is a supplement you can get at GNC. You prob saw it from redbull or energy drinks so most people think its a no no for withdrawals thinking it worsens things. Its actually a calming energy supplement though. It gives you a calming alert sort of energy without the jitters. It's what balances out the caffeine in energy drinks. It also naturally lowers blood pressure and helps with muscle function..so fights fatigue DEF a must have for me for withdrawals. I never see it on the boards though! I remember it from pharmacology. Your blood pressure goes up during withdrawals. You'll notice because your fingers or feet will be slightly red and sometimes swollen. Anyways I love it. Highly recommend it, it def helped me. B vitamins are good also! So keep taking that. Just have to eat with those because they give energy by metabolizing your food into energy. So a lot of people think the B vitamins aren't working because they aren't hungry during withdrawals so they eat less. So just eat before you take those and it will give you energy.

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